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    Не могу определится что с этим делать? Езжу на машинке недавно и не могу понять тянет она или нет на холостых слегка дрожит. Еще была ошибка по лямбде но ее я решил вот теперь новая помогите!
     
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    16717/P0333/000819 - Датчик детонации 2-G66: слишком высокий уровень сигнала
    Возможные симптомы

    повреждение двигателя

    Возможные причины

    Датчик детонации 2 (G66) неправильно затянут

    Возможные решения

    Крутящий момент датчика детонации 2 (G66) со спецификациями
    Проверьте датчика детонации 2 (G66) и Knock управления
    Не весело это, далее тебе сюда http://a6-allroad.ru/showthread.php?t=1159
     
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    Пере затянуть это хорошо, что значит поврежден двигатель? Где находится этот датчик?
     
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    А то и значит, что возможно хана мотору находятся они в развале блока и если их никто не трогал возможна хана, смотри ретарды, углы опережения по распредвалам вагкомом, потом делать выводы
     
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    Ретарды я посмотрел по всем цилиндрам показывает по "0" что это?
     
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    что в 93 группе на холостом? ретарды под нагрузкой снимать 20 и 21 группу
     
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    Address 01: Engine (4Z7 907 551 S)

    18:39:15 Group 093: Continuous Camshaft Adjustment (Phase Position - Bank 1 && 2)
    800 /min Engine Speed (G28)
    24.1 % Engine Load
    -1.0°KW Phase Position Bank 1
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    да, ставишь запись в лог и на третьей передачи с 1500 тысяч оборотов тапку в пол и едем до 6000, но так чтоб кикдаун не сработал
     
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    Monday,11,February,2013,19:15:31:32264,VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3,Data version: 20120401
    4Z7 907 551 S,,2.7L V6/5VT G 0020,

    ,Group A:,'020,,,,Group B:,'021,,,,Group C:, Not Running
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    ,TIME,Cylinder 1,Cylinder 2,Cylinder 3,Cylinder 4,TIME,Cylinder 5,Cylinder 6,,,TIME,,,,
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    чета она звенеть начинает с 2х тысяч, как бы бензонасос тазовский не стоял там в баке
     
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    это я проверю насчет бензанасоса, в целом то что хорошего или маленькое давление бенза?
     
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    а если значения по группе "20" находятся в пределах от 6.8 до 8.3 - это о чем? подскажите плиз.
     

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    Логи зипуй и выкладывай в родном расширении ниже твой первый лог, группа "20" в пределах от 6.8 до 8.3 это и есть детонация вот он у тебя и ругается, машина может быть с диким чипом или с дырявым насосом, Аркадия нада ждать тот укажет с очень большой вероятностью на причину
     

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    Предыдущий хозяин сказал что она чипована до 290л.с, вырезаны каты, отключены задние лямбды. Да и еще есть какой то странный звук как прихлопывание в движке похож как ремень ГРМ о боштото стучит начинается этот звук гдето с 1800 причем безразницы что в "Р" что "D" и потом исчезает
     
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